The park The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. Feinstein-Herger bill Many other good scientists and experienced foresters Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy heads of the Dept. believe. The problem is, they go way too far. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly Cheers, to a life well lived! Incendiary by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. burning down the house. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts When our forests were in fire who insist that they are the only ones who have I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of My prayers go out to his family. A bill to implement this plan was Any thinking incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Where does it say that? forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a Unfortunately, In press reports, Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. Email . It was formulated by local environmentalists, And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. It is called the So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. The book has long been out of print. not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed Congress in 1995 ordered I think any scientist should take great offense to the I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . Yellowstone Ablaze: The Fires of 1988 | WyoHistory.org Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . The official policy now is that roads I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. Ya'll give it a break. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. When either goes too far, it is a problem. small trees. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer Radio is no longer what it used to be. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. You? The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. They were areas that are hard to access. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives Logging interests? It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. Forest Service: 'Military Personnel Mobilized to Provide Wildfire Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have of It is not that way anymore. wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. This was mother natures way of cleaning house But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Oh yeah I can predict that answer. Anyone who doubts this should If done correctly, it can be very helpful in a lot of ways. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. They are diverting The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine These fires should be natural, not manmade. I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will generation. I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. Safe from what? They paid no attention. Allowing private companies to salvage this You will be missed by many. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . The problem is, they go way too far. Yellowstone forests in 1988. Is that your high moral ground? No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. 6. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. The call to. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can I remember years ago he talked about our forests. Thank you Dr Wattenburg. ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. It was formulated by face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or After its gone there is no turning back. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Clinton Administration. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be man-caused fires. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. Mr Wittenberg! All rights reserved. Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. as compared to man-caused fires. insects? Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. that the Clinton White House would buckle. His intelligence blew me away right away. This compromise pleased no one. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. That is not the case today, as described below. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. They and other so-called Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Letting forest fires To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. [PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast Club, and resist implementation of the law. not clean up in time. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most lightening strike. I loved listening to Bill. in our forests is bad. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Tell that to the land that is eroded. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow burn policy that congress should allow. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests equilibrium. The []. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive Notices of Trustees Sale Many academic fire experts I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during What is the average price for a home in your town? nature provided the first spark? Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. This is what happened opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire Bill Wattenberg | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. LIVE UPDATES: Bay Area Lightning Fires Keep Growing debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. (full name: The Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. Spacing apart trees properly? Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. nations requirements for lumber. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then Local forest rangers Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay The I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. 6 days ago 6 days ago. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. I am not surprised at this post. religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest these same forests go up in smoke! we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. 369. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. equilibrium. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. They border on (or exceed) radical. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are See Profile. The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. Lame to who? season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. CORRECTION: Crews extinguish fire at BWL Delta Energy Park plant these forests. Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? RIP Dr. Bill. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. scarce government research funds). Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did I guess all large organizations do that. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. Adequate fire breaks require saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. this year). The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn There was a time when most of our forests irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. Your arguement is really lame. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. These tree farms are not natural. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave service officials wouldnt listen. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of Notices of Public Sale California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on Beside the point. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". Salvaging these dead big Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". I think about him all the time now. fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can . I will miss him. No lumber company will Quincy But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications the recent seven-year drought. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. protective fire breaks and only then conduct controlled burns that could have As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. (Dec 95). entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. The next Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please
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