I cannot find any locally. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). (Side shower walls are white). ! Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. My new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. They should be able to get the job done for you. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? Here are our raw floors right now. It requires a special approach. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. Ours is from Norway. Thank you for posting a picture! Of the Bona sealers, NordicSeal looks to white to me and AmberSeal - well the name says it all, trying to stay away from the amber look. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. It's a installer issue. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Ha. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. Source: elsesun.com. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? White oak seems to be kind of tricky. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. William Smith, D.D., was Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. It could be as low as $2/sf. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? We are building next year and making decisions now. I have about 735 sf. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? He can work a section. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. Thanks. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Thanks for the responses. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Try this color if you want a darker shade. Let's see how long this finish last. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. They have little to no chemical resistance. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. Thanks for taking the time to write all that! The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Nordic seal has white pigments. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. Really not read much about IntenSeal? The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! Then go with water based and be done with it. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE I think we found a good match. The other two will give you more color. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. The coating should not come up. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. It has come out very well. (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. I hope some of this information is helpful. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Any help appreciated! So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. San and finish guys come in next. Make your home a homage to Scandinavian style or simply add a few nicely Nordic touches with this checklist of key features, Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Engineered wood flooring offers classic looks and durability. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! and I wish we had another layer of protection. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. I screwed that up a few times. What is your installer recommending? I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Argh. Here are some of my samples. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. less. . The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. It doesn't make sense. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Ask for Bona Mega One. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. Thanks so much! You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? (Mirror and lighting still not in). There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. That doesn't sound like what you are after. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. Imagine if that would have been quartz? ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Not always as expected. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. Do you think there is any major issue with this? I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) @tkgriff Love the floor. I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). white oak hardwood flooring. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. It will make the white oak whiter. Not the best lighting. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. Think NCAA and NBA courts. Not change the raw color much, 2. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Is the Nordic still a problem? Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. And like all things "time is money". It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Double cost any standard stained finish. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. The coating should not come up. Cant decide! It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Hi! Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! Our project starts on Dec 5. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Here are some of my samples. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. We want a more modern aesthetic. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). Matte looks a bit dull. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. Whaaaaat???? We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow.
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