or are you just repeating here say? Hopefully Bob Coy will be teaching this Sunday. I hope there is a place for restoration to ministry someday also, God has used this man in a mighty way in multitudes of lives. we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? And a grim-looking assistant pastor, gripping a letter, was walking across the stage. Barbara first off, that was not the question. You only want those who will tell you how smart and how right you are? Let him be restored to the churchs love. Lets pray for him , his wife and his children until they are healed and restored and he is forgiven by The Lord , if not already ! Money, Power and Sex: Mamon, Mars and Aphrodite. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. Sounds like the sin isnt what concerns you but its about the money. And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners why not all since you defend one of the sinners so vigorously? Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. No one seems to care about that. Youve met your match http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/81264743769/what-were-reading. If I had to choose between a repentant Bob Coy or even a Moses model pastor teaching correct doctrine or someone who is morally correct under a board that makes the decisions for the church, and yet teaching false doctrine like that Jesus only died for the Christians and not for the whole world, that there is no free will involved in salvation, when the Bible continually tells us that there is, and when part of their foundation is replacement theology, that is, that the church has replaced Israel and that the tribulation has already happened, then give me the Moses model pastor, sometimes and in many cases we have to choose the lesser of the two evils, as Jesus said, The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. He didnt say stop hearing them. I also know 2 large donors retracted their pledges. Read broadly from people who have some form of biblical training. David did not have the risen Jesus supposedly living in his heart, nor the power and anointing of the holy spirit that they claim, as current day proponents of the good news. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. Please remember the mercy and forgiveness that out Heavenly Father has shown you before you judge or cast stones. http://www.calvaryftl.org/calvary-blog/statement-regarding-bob-coy/. They are the ones truly in need of prayer. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter. ( When I signed in, it asked for my first and last name seemed simple enough.!) He was the son of Joe Gibbs, a five-time NASCAR Cup Series championship winning owner and Pro Football Hall of Famer. The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! This brother is as Gay as a Goose! I think they need to clean house in order to restore confidence. Please understand I dont mean that condescendingly, it just is fact. I dont think so. I will remember next time. v.23 and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him, v.25 and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.. Michael Newham, have you ever committed adultery? Coy is exposed for his moral situation. It went for far less than the first. In late 2013, Chuck Smith died at the age of 86 after battling lung cancer. is it possible you source could be wrong. doctrine like eschatology comes up, they all come out with very strong verbiage? one more thing. Physically and mentally- and this blog helped me tremendously because there were others here who shared the same story. both started their careers in his shop. I knew his daughter, he was a good dad. He convicts us of sin and draws us to the Savior. One of the gals from Saturday Night live attended- I forget her name and they really used that to their advantage-she was mentioned. Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? It is a struggle not to disrespect and dishonor her? Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. He and his wife actually had real world experience risking their necks for the sake of the gospel and giving the selves for themselves for the least of the lost in war torn Liberia in the late 90s. I bet the line of women giving interviews is long and loud. Given the opportunity of beautiful young women throwing themselves at at men, 99.9 percent of men would fall. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. What did the church do in the Middle Ages? Its sad cause his son is supposed to attend there this fall. The chapel's founder, Kent Nottingham, told a local TV station that there'd been no suspicion of abuse and that he was "shocked.". Just saying maybe. My prayers are with Pastor Bob, Diane, and the kids. How do you KNOW that Israel on the Mediterranean is the Israel of God? finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. I would also see their wives looking at them and nudging them. Daniel 9:27And he will make a firm covenant with the many FOR ONE WEEK!, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate. , Filbertz Your argument is not with me but with Jesus who said they sit in Moses seat, Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. Well, what happened to the $ since there was never a new sanctuary? There are a multitude of reasons why this is important information and depending on when you ask me, youll get a different answer. Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. Lusting, stealing, cursing, etc. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. The CC dove poops again. To err is humanto forgive..divine. Pastor Bob has always reminded his congregation that they should look to Christand not to man. I found it accidentally on Google. You should not trouble yourself with this man. Satan is a liar, a thief and that is why it is soooo important for the body of Christ to pray for ALL pastors and their families and for all churchesand for our own families.continually.I cant be there for the meeting but my friends will be and they will be heartbroken..but we need to pray for Diane and the children and Not look at them wronglyPastor Bob needs continual prayer because I know with all my heart if he could turn back the clock he would have asked for help.. Calvary was his life and his families years ago in another church I was in a similar thing happened ..the pastor had built the church up to an enormous congregation in Orlando.and years later he came back not to his church but to ministries and the end of his life was his best. That person is praying for me? Mother and daughter are reeling from shock..asking themselves why they did not recognize the absence of authentic Christian character in the fallen mega-pastor. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. My hypocrisy? If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! Look at any end times prophecy books on the shelf today all written by dispies. Face reality how could he be in the word and not be under conviction ? It appears I missed the Mensa meeting on this thread ;o). How do you know that Isaiah is speaking of the millennium other than Missler or some other end times guru told you. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. I wish that were not so, but theres much more information waiting to burst. In Coy's case, Bailey made a relatively unusual ruling: All financial documents would be kept secret. Early life, education and early career. Just answer these questions my friend, and you will know if youre a preterist scripture denying disciple of Calvin or a Bible believing follower of Jesus! If I need to defend myself, I have documentation to prove every word. Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. Amen to #639, especially your last paragraph, Ps40. No thats not a fulfillment of prophecy, that was just those pesky Zionists, who made that happen, no it wasnt God fulfilling his word and the prophecies in the O.T concerning Israel. There is just NO WAY a board would put an organization this big at risk unless they were guarding something more. Do those people have a right to know? The only thing that covers ALL of us who are fallen to begin with is the Blood of The Lamb of God which was shed at Calvary and that covers Pastor Bob right now too ! And I can name an endless list of Calvinists who have won tens of thousands to Christ. I havent brought up Luther once I very rarely quote him. But doctrine doesnt fall into that same category? Where did you ever get the idea that the millennium was to be disneyland?? Is Coral Ridge Post? Bob and family obviously dont want to face any more humiliation. Whats up with that? I was thinking bull, too, just without the china-shop analogy.. Re: moral failings They do not expound because they do not WANT to expound. She was driving aggressively in the wrong direction as she was delayed by traffic to reach the destination, reported Gone Too Soon Fandom Wiki. Is there a lawsuit coming? Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. Loss of respect. Bakkers son, Jay, wrote in 2001 that the Bakkers felt betrayed by Falwell, whom they thought, at the time of Bakkers resignation, intended to help in Bakkers eventual restoration as head of the PTL ministry organization. Ive never been married. With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude! Like his mentor Smith, he looked for converts in unusual places. Had not thought of that. It would be good to listen to her insight. Jean, this went on at a large church I attended for awhile and when I questioned it I was told it was a common practice, having what they called aKings Circle. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. I cant believe some of the comments Ive read here and on CCAbuse. Personally I think Hughs comments are refreshing and realistic. The department assigned the case to Det. 16 And there shall be a highway for the remnant of His people, that shall remain from Assyria, like as there was for Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt. That same year, the church found itself in a bizarre scandal centered on a lucrative, 400-station radio network and its head, Idaho-based Pastor Mike Kestler. Time to Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.2Tim 2:15. The Bible is inerrant. We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. I just came across this blog and it appears to be hosted by a CCFL attendee. Was he ever wrong? He claims that he was present at the Martin Luther King assassination crime scenes. This will be my last ever participation in one of these exchanges. Church, youve accomplished nothing through this. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. This is what is so frustrating to me. Jeff Payne, a veteran investigator in the usually sleepy, affluent suburb of 120,000. People were asked to make pledges. The point is that sin is a type of adultery against God, if we are the bride of Christ, lying, lust cheating or anything that puts something in front of Christ is an adultery because it violates that covenant. A man has been overcome in a trespass, perhaps a series of trespasses. We dont really know why God didnt send the Gospel message to most of humanity and we dont know why God doesnt make us sin no more when we are supposedly saved. This dynamic makes guys like Coy hide their sin for a long time b/c they know if theyre caught, the game is up and theyre exposed for not being saved or not being specially anointed etc in the CC mindsetand they lose their power and career. I Am His: Diane Coy | ARE YOU COMING? Register today for the - Facebook Instead, the pastors Smith installed in his hundreds of megachurches, which are similar to Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, had nearly unlimited power over budgets, personnel, and message. Weve had too much of that here lately and it hurts us all. It was supposed to be raised for a new sanctuary that was to be at the North-East part of the property near the canal and would take up part of the main front parking lot. Calvary Chapel also has more than 13,000 Facebook followers. I am sure a church that size had plenty of people who did not attend last week as they likely miss from time to time. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Bob Coy is very intimidating and you cannot cross him. Being estranged from God and condemned by our sinfulness, our salvation is wholly dependent upon the work of Gods free grace. Thank you for posting the info about the 2:30 pm meeting. Specifically when using the number 7. 3. I can see this except for one very big deal. really? Mark, are you kidding? For me involves simply the interest in private conversation with people outside my circle. Coy is twisting in the wind. Some of the biggest anti-Semites have been Jewish! I felt that the constant comedy instead of Bible teaching, was the sign that there was always something wrong there. We are so angry at one another so jealous, so accusing. Those in his wake need compassion. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible?. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. People just dont like the bible when it doesnt suit their faith. So crazy that I became addicted to cocaine.". As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. why did your wife divorce you, were you unfaithful? I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. They are being good guardians and deserve no finger pointingjust applause for being brave and having the character to do such a thing. The accusations reveal in graphic detail that Coy forced the girl to perform oral sex on him, and that he "digitally penetrated her.". My prayers are for them that they dont fall away, that they dont dismiss this and purely look the other way. He believes the false gospel of lordship salvation which cannot save. The case was thus closed and made "inactive" in October 2015 pending the victim's cooperation. It is no doubt that BC did a lot of good. Aka Danny Damond. And prior to my outcries there was at least an additional decade of no accountability for the same sins. My apologies to all people who are 300 pounds or over it wasnt my intention to insult you or hurt your feelings and my apologies to MLD in reading your post, they seemed very callous and cruel without regard for the scripture that says that we need to consider ourselves lest we also be tempted, so this caricature came to my mind but again my apologies and I want to ask the moderator to take down my previous post since Im unable to do that, Thank you. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. For the mature in Christit shows how the solid food does you well.please pray for all involved as you are doing. I have trust issues and the thickest walls imaginable. We are living in times unlike any other time in history, when did you ever hear of kids sexting, porn at the click of a button, drugs (marihuana) legalized, same sex marriage being made the law of the land, its a war the Bible says that is raging with the devil knowing that his time is short, woe onto you inhabitants of the earth for the devil comes down to you with great wrath knowing that his days are short So we have casualties of war, BC is a casualty of this war, one who needs healing and restoration, not expulsion and condemnation! There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? So now answer the question! Dusty, no, Steve will tell you theres nothing but good fruit and clear skies and smooth sailing. They pop up on our husbands e-mail, Facebook, etc. All the best that money can buy. He admitted to it. , -, -, ; , . You are a funny guy 1st you quote to me Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, and then you tell me you JUST READ THE BIBLE which is it. He boasted of a vast media reach. Bob chose to do that.. Period. That is just ridiculous. You surely mustve know that stealing was wrong or dealing drugs was wrong or fornicating was wrong etc. I got tired of responding to the nonsense. We have an enemy and it is not Pastor Bob. Who assigned you the daunting task of picking up the pieces? {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. Explain to me how you could take communion at 3 services and then go bang someone else?? I think he (Stanley) was the first to do this. What happened to Sharon? Did she die? - tvacute.com Now you complain about being put into a box. His wife is Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. Anyone know? RiBo @ 145 Yes, all the more evidence that men are still sinners after they are savedthere is no transformationmen still sin in the same or different areas as before they were saved.. 5. Luther wrote what he wrote, so you go with that, no matter what. There is a reason God forgives us. Indwelling our hearts, He gives new life to us, empowers and imparts gifts to us for service. Normally Chuck would have not wasted this asset unless what Coy did was to outrageous to cover up. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. Is God through with the nation of Israel? And I have a sincere question about him. Oh, he doesnt think that on the surface, but he knows what he is doing. Preparations for Sharons operation had begun inFire Country episode 15. Bob wrote: Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark?. Miracles are still happening on earth. Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. So heres to you hypocrites as you go to bed tonight and pull out the pleasure files! Let me also say this. Afterwards Bob address the congregation in the parking lot and proclaimed God must not want them to stay in Pompano and shortly there after the property they bought, which I think was the old Hewlett Packard building or something like that, was back in Ft Lauderdale. MLD this is interesting and the first ive heard of this. Thank you. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Are we in the (symbolic) millennium 3. So here is the text. I have been married over 45 yrs and am almost Muslim like when I come in the presence of other women. Ok I got it:) So do you NOT believe jesus is coming back for the bride one day? Coy aligned his fledgling church with Calvary Chapel, a movement started in Southern California in the 1960s by Chuck Smith, a laid-back West Coaster who wore Hawaiian shirts while he preached a fire-and-brimstone, old-school religion. I suggest you would be considered a loving person for doing the same. She told Payne she was "moving tomorrow [overseas] on a mission trip with the church, and asked if it was possible to destroy any record of [her] abuse," the detective wrote in a closeout memo. Statistics. When you knowingly sin then, post-saved, you are willfully being an enemy of God and we all do it b/c we are all aware of our sin and we sin anyway. to 666/Bob we dont even know what the mark truly is some say it is symbolic, some say physical and some say mental:(. Restoration is step three. Bob Coy, Pastor of Florida's Calvary Chapel Megachurch - HuffPost There is blood on my sword. Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! Oh did I spoil your little party, are your dirty little garments full of ulterior motives showing as you point your self righteous little finger at others and relish in their fall! what is your motive for this? My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. E, that mindset makes your continuing sin worse as you then are aware of what you are doing is wrong but do it anyway. Frank, are you cool with Calvary Chapel pastors judging those outside their church who are gay and want to get married? Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. Getting professional help gives you a partner to help you resolve these. I know this to be true because you have stated many times that you read only the Bible. You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. I have. This is a muddled moshpit, and I dont think Almighty God is into screamo. You bring him up every time you post, because you are his disciple. Even her real son couldnt muster any rage. 7 And when the THOUSAND YEARS are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Im still waiting to see if you disagree with Luther on anything. What do you wish to accomplish with this? The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Is 11:68. Many comments by those who attend CCFL. So my position is one of total sympathy for Diane and the kids.and I find myself frankly in the conflicted position due to personal experience of being totally pissed at Bob for his selfish actions, and at the same time praying for his relationship to be someday restored with first our Lord, and Diane, and his tragically innocent children. Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in. "We learned of this report after it was disclosed and reported to the appropriate authorities," says Michael Miller, a church spokesman. Im not answerable to you. Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! It sounds so super spiritual for Bob to say, but I dont recall Paul saying that, or Peter, or John saying that, anywhere in Scripture. Why is that so hard? We all make mistakes and we must pray for him. Not good. I have documentation. It never happened. Hopefully the believers will recover quickly and put their faith in Jesus to find a new place or to remain, but they will need to examine their faith first. 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Youre a special woman. Im sorry for you and your pain. Wow, this is shocking and very sad I will pray for healing for his wife and marriage, and that he is broken before God because of his sin, and takes full responsibility for all of it. Grace indeed but the truth needs to come out. A Calvinist sniffing for sin and pointing the finger at those who have been successful with a different paradigm, and relishing in the fall of those who do not hold his view, seems to be very suspect and stinks of ulterior motives. We still sin, we still are capable of the same evils as prior to being saved and thats why accountability measures in the churches and checks and balances to power in both religion and politics is vitally necessary. Michael, I see you shook the tree and some nuts fell out. God bless you all. #469 Fidel dumped his own church to go back to CCFL because his church was failing. just a question, Michael, you should be able to answer, we all should be transparent, especially you since you are a pastor, you were married right? You my friend constantly bring him up. Too much too soon. Sorry that I crashed your little party! It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. Maybe God never intended for Bob to have the mega church, Bob has said many times publically he would rather has a small congregation of true believers than thousands of people playing church. Pastor Bob Coy left with his family. How often do you pronounce curses in Gods name? and Why? Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Will they be allowed? G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail: http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-1-mark-of-beast.html http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-2-slave-book.html http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. He was discharged shortly after New Year's Eve, but was readmitted a few days later to Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in Whittier, California. Revelation 20:6. Diane Schuler, aka Aunt Diane, died in an accident. Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. His approval of Jakes procedure was crucial. He is in the pit, chained and bound? Share the power. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. All the sacrifices.to be harmed by so many in leadership that did their own thing without anyone knowing. I am. I hope the best for you Mr Coy God can still use you; after all Peter outwardly deigned Christ (3) times and was lifted up to be the one appointed to feed the sheep and , excuse the analogy, you will need to be willing to be crucified upside down. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Re 5:56. The Bible, uniquely and fully inspired by the Holy Spirit, is the supreme and final authority on all matters on which it speaks.